I have not discovered that the openness to antisemitic messaging on the right under the age of 45, that it is a reaction almost at all to supposed Israeli genocide or accusations of war crimes in Gaza. Those people do not —— They don’t, as far as I can tell, they don’t buy the Gaza line. They do have openness to Jewish skepticism and to possible antisemitism. But it’s not about Gaza. See, to me, that’s a very pessimistic reading from my perspective, because it seems to suggest the Gaza war is hopefully a temporary foreign policy crisis that has yielded all kinds of concerns about the U.S. relationship to Israel, all kinds of concerns about Israeli policy. But those concerns could be time bound. You change the foreign policy dynamic, and antisemitism doesn’t go away, but it diminishes. If that’s not the case, then it seems to me that we’re talking about more something that’s fundamentally rooted in the culture of the internet, maybe the culture of parts of my own religion. You’re suggesting that seems to me to be a darker narrative, a reason to be more pessimistic than you can know. I’m sorry. I wasn’t, I was —— I know you weren’t trying to be optimistic. No, I was just trying to be factual. This tremendous hurricane of a fight that we’re seeing on the right is not about foreign policy. When the issue was, Trump is about to start World War III because the Jews are dragging him into war with Iran; the United States is going to occupy Iran; thousands of people are going to die — what happened was that instead of saying, oh, the Trump team, they’re actually pretty good at this. They actually know what they’re doing. They’re not the old neocons. Instead of saying that, they immediately switched to Epstein. Yeah, but so doesn’t that, but part of that —— It just got much worse. The anti-Jewish messaging over the summer was much worse than before the Iran attack, because it went to Epstein, and after Epstein it went to Charlie Kirk, and did the Jews kill Charlie Kirk? There has been all year long a nonstop anti-Jewish campaign to differing degrees in different podcasts. And that campaign is not about foreign policy. Foreign policy is one of the tools in its arsenal.
